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Postby Trey » Sun May 09, 2010 9:06 am

Just finish Fallout 3... How did this game get such great reviews? Ugh... So many flaws, where to start... First off RPGs with guns just don't work. Maybe with a sword you can get away with a character becoming deadlier with more experience, but with a gun... One shotgun blast to the face'll pretty much kill anything or anybody. Unloading 4 shots into a monsters face at point blank range (and not killing it) is annoying unrealistic. The story elements were really, really weak. I can't tell you how many times I was frustrated by the inability to answer dialouge in the game the way I wanted. There just weren't enough possible answers. For instance, what if I wanted to agree to a characters scheme but then turn around and screw him later? That option was never avaliable in the story. Like intentionally lying your way into a place to attack them from the inside, or when you get talking to a character you though was alright, and discover is an a-hole later. There's no option to renege on the deal, and tell the guy F-you. Then there's the depth of veiw. Creatures don't get smaller in the distance, they just vanish from view at a certain point. You have scoped weapons, but they can't pick out targets from much further away that you can see with the naked eye, plus you'd have to shoot a creature half a dozen times to kill it, no one shot kills, all of which makes the sniper rifle and scoped pistol completely pointless. The best weapon in the whole games is one of the first you get, and it's only a friggin sledgehammer. It took me half the game to realize all the guns were worthless. I spent the rest of the game charging almost everything and beating it to death with a stupid sledgehammer. There were only 3 creatures I can think of that I needed to use something other than the old fashion beat-down, and that's because most things attack you with guns, and the only way to stop their attack is to get in close and pummel them, especially if you're being attacked by 2 or more.
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Postby otiscrusher » Tue May 11, 2010 11:29 am

The game's a big pile of dog sht, it's so obvious. Like all other Betsheda works. I don't get it how some folks enjoy this mess. It's not even close to the RPG genre. Just another poor freak shooter. It's popular only because it's EXTREMELY easy no matter of the selected difficulty. Even a four years old child can beat it without a sweat. It's just so pathetic piece of work... I totally agree with you, Trey.
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Postby level1900 » Tue May 11, 2010 2:22 pm

I liked it a lot, despite the bugs, occasional freezes, useless laser weapons ans the foul rotten italian translation and voice acting.

I agree on the technical issues you found, especially about the mip-map thing. Don't forget this is the Oblivion engine, a game I frankly hated. I remember how excited I was finding a sniper rifle and how disappointed I was when I found out you can't hit anything with it unless you use the v.a.t.s.

As for the story, well, we have seen better, but I really like the post apocalyptic setting and how everything is stuck at the 1950s

Oh and too much gore for my liking.
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Postby Trey » Tue May 11, 2010 9:10 pm

Ah, that reminds me. If they're going to do a game with 1950's graphics, shouldn't it contain faux 1950's technology? (like Bioshock) Instead we've got a landscape littered with 1950s cars and stuff, plus assault rifles, miniguns, lasers, floating robots, computers, power armor, helicopters, etc. That annoyed me too.

Also 200 years have supposed to have passed, and no one has... cleared any of the dead bodies out of the places they live, cleared any rubble from any habitable buildings, scavanged lumber from all the wrecked houses, got one car working, created a livable city (besides Megaton...).
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Postby DoctorShark » Tue May 11, 2010 10:44 pm

For someone who had a serious oblivion addiction, it was a breath of fresh air, even if i had to swallow a few bugs.
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Postby freakboy » Wed May 12, 2010 10:30 am

I had a russian version first, played a bit and it felt mediocre, then installed english version and there was slight savegame incompatibilities. I really dislike the path the fps genre is taking. It greatly suffers when its merged with rpg genre.
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Postby otiscrusher » Wed May 12, 2010 9:34 pm

For someone who had a serious oblivion addiction, it was a breath of fresh air


... spoilt by a nasty fart of lousy porting on PC. Tha game's a piss, VERY poor at best. Discussing how good it is can't be understood by any reasonable person. You must be dead drunk to buy that. It's as bad as it comes. Everything's wrong: graphics, sound, controls, plot, AI (still sucks in any game that exists). Initially designed for small children and their not so bright parents.

P.S. The same happened to TES 4, btw. Bloody mess, everything's screwed big time. Playing it was like chewing a monkey crap. It hurt a lot without any positive moments throughout the entire game.
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Postby level1900 » Sat May 15, 2010 9:11 pm

otiscrusher wrote:
For someone who had a serious oblivion addiction, it was a breath of fresh air


... spoilt by a nasty fart of lousy porting on PC. Tha game's a piss, VERY poor at best. Discussing how good it is can't be understood by any reasonable person. You must be dead drunk to buy that. It's as bad as it comes. Everything's wrong: graphics, sound, controls, plot, AI (still sucks in any game that exists). Initially designed for small children and their not so bright parents.

P.S. The same happened to TES 4, btw. Bloody mess, everything's screwed big time. Playing it was like chewing a monkey crap. It hurt a lot without any positive moments throughout the entire game.

Perhaps they screwed up the PC port? I advise you try the xbox version, it's a really good game (avoid the PS3 version if you can).
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Postby Trey » Sat May 15, 2010 11:59 pm

Don't worry Otiscrusher hates everything as far as I can tell, except for cloned copies of original game discs, and he probably hates those games too, but at least he's happy to have a perfect copy of it. :oops:
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Postby Xeon » Mon May 17, 2010 6:04 am

I havent had a lot of encounter with Otiscrusher but I believe you can see him in another way.

Think of him as the asshole guy at work that no one can terminate since he is actually every useful at work. In other words, he IS the necessary asshole this forum needs. Just have a nice day or something :D
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Postby otiscrusher » Mon May 17, 2010 11:56 am

Don't worry Otiscrusher hates everything as far as I can tell, except for cloned copies of original game discs, and he probably hates those games too, but at least he's happy to have a perfect copy of it.


Very, very original. :D So inventive but... nah, it aint like that. Nice try though.

Think of him as the asshole guy at work that no one can terminate since he is actually every useful at work. In other words, he IS the necessary asshole this forum needs.


Wow, that was simply beautiful! You must be a writer or something like that. :D What a vivid imagination, bravo! :lol: Any other thoughts like that? Anything else to hit me with? :) Keep up that way and I always gonna have a good and funny day. :lol:
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Postby Xeon » Tue May 18, 2010 4:01 am

I knew you'd like it :P
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Postby otiscrusher » Tue May 18, 2010 5:27 pm

Xeon wrote:I knew you'd like it :P


Absolutely, how couldn't I? :lol: What's fun is fun! :P
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